the holidays can be tough for a few years while you're adjusting.
the guilt of participating in, and enjoying anything related to the holidays can be overwhelming.. you don't have to celebrate any holiday to be a non-jw.
that is entirely up to you.. you may feel like xmas could never have any meaning to you because of your history and pagan roots.
Thanks for your perspective- this is my first year celebrating (I did feel too guilty last year-leaving the JWs was just too fresh) I liked how you said to make it what ever you want it to be...I hope to create some good holiday memories in the years to come :)
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
CHG
i'm not the biggest fan of depeche mode, but a couple of their albums were actually ok. there's one track by them i've always loved called, "strangelove" from their music for the masses album, and the lyrics remind me of my own thought process at times.
the lead vocalist sings at one point, "i give in, to sin, because you have to make this life livable.
looking back on it, i feel that i needed to watch that fight.
I went down that "slippery slope" and did the coffee thing...it was great for a long time, just casual friends, but it got messy at the end...and the whole JW thing kinda tore us apart (since I was still in and not quite faded out yet)...so it is up to you- I still got busted by nosy pioneers just sitting at the coffee shop talking with a young man & got the elders talking to me about the "slippery slope" i was on.
just know that if it may go beyond the friends thing, you may have to make a decision to get off that fence.
CHG
yep, thats about as much of the bible as i care to believe in, or quote, except "you will know the truth and the truth will set you free".
the only two verses i care for.
the bible is bs, religion is bs, and the jw's are the ultimate form of bs.
Thanks sinis! Merry freakin Christmas and a Happy New Year! (sorry about the freakin...I watched the south park mr. hankey Christmas special last night-laughed my arse off)
I am glad you and most of your family are out and in a healthier place :)
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lol- um yes, a bunch of small groups huddled together in tight circles talking about the same recycled, tedious, most borring JW stuff-and vicious gossip about who is dating who (should they be holding hands? they are not even engaged), who got removed as a pioneer, blah blah blah......aarg when is this party gonna end so I can go home and relax? I am actually the "brotha" at any past JW get together- hugging the wall, making fun of the moron making a peace sign inside my head, and trying to think of an excuse to leave.
CHG
HI, nice to have you...why dont you stay awhile!
CHG
a few of my friends who also used to be jw's, say they miss certain things abt it...i can honestly say that i don't miss a single thing (my sister obviously who's still in but nothing else).. before i could sometimes miss having such a strong belief but that's also gone.
i guess i've moved on big time.
/newborn.
watersprout & mag witch- I MISS THE CLOTHES TOO- I love getting dressed up, and now I wear some of my favorite meeting clothes that I pair up with mini's instead of below the knee skirts(thankfully mini's are in style this fall/winter) and I miss high heels- I love my beauties so...sometimes I take them out of the closet and look at them- I don't have an excuse anymore to go out and buy new fancy outfits like I did. I would always look forward to the conventions and assemblies- not for the programs- but to look at what everyone was wearing & see who was wearing the highest heels. -so silly......
Yes I should put in a token coment about family, yes sometimes I miss my sister & cousins, aunts & uncles, but not as much as I thought I would.....
CHG
as i watch the watchtower fall.
nothing left to govern my body.
i fall into the winter.
I love it & I think you must collaborate with stuckinamovement on a youtube video- I was imagining emineim's voice in the lyrics when I was reading
have you thought about quitting your day job?
CHG
i was expecting to just get examined then told it was nothing to worry about but i also had a mamogram , then scan .
the lump i was worried about was ok but the scanner found one behind it that she was not sure about , she took a biopsy from it after i had a local anesthetic and sent me back to the doctor who told me i would now have to wait a week for those results !
when i had arrived i was told i would be told today if everything is ok !
Best wishes & I hope for some peace for you for this week while you are waiting for results- My boss' wife did have breast cancer & after chemo and radiation- she was in remission...now after 5 years she was declared cancer free from the doc- it is possible :)
best of luck & yes I will have CSG check for lumps (seriously)
CHG
lozasleft said i should introduce myself.
i wasn't happy my dad got baptized because i thought it would change him and i liked him the way he was.
anyway i got baptized in 1969 at 16 yrs old mainly because i wanted to be able to date jw girls.
Welcome pontoon! There are many people in your shoes now- I feel your pain (about the parents thing) and hope reading about what other people have gone through will help you- you are heard and understood here.
Thanks for sharing
CHG
well because i knew the questions would be the same on saturday as they were friday i was even more prepared.
my mom has this pattern of repeating the same questions over and over again...she will leave it for a few hours & then she will cycle them over again, but then ask more detail.. so saturday she calls me before i leave for home and now she is backpedalling her story.
she tells me that the elder's never said that they were going to disfellowship me, they just were counseling her that she should no longer be associating with me because i am bad association and have been seen with "him" (again with the him) and that his car has been seen parked there all the time.
Thanks cantleave & nugget for yours as well! I could send one of our fun cards to my "stalking" elder, that would solve it for him wouldn't it? Nah...
CHG
